I worry about how much the -1 power level when not ascended is going to hurt. The good thing about ascendant is that they can do either damage or CC, as there's no penalty to either. Edited by marc5477Īs I said, I really want to stay as a pure Cypher, both to get access to the higher level spells, and because I don't want to get too complicated on my first play through. The only nice thing about ranger is your pet does not need to be summoned but its not nearly as good as 3-6 wurms or drakes. The chanter gets better pets, better dps, better defense, and a lot more utility. I also want to say that you can do well with a cypher/ranger but honestly. On top of that, the chanter grants a lot of utility that expands what you can do. Add ascendant to it and you will get some crazy damage output spikes but honestly, I like beguiler better in general so I would probably pick that. So much so, that you will probably never cast a spell while using it because simple autoattack will do more dps. But joking aside, it has a really nice buffs. Actually its so good we might as well call it Chuck Norris. the best cypher is probably a multi-class that gets perks to ranged or melee from the other class. I know you are asking for subclass but honestly. I'm not the best at coming up with builds- I just want to try and find a fun concept and play through the game with it.Īscendant for dps, beguiler if you want utility or want to cheat (range out of combat cheese but its cheating). I worry that I'd have to invest in another class or weapon to build up focus quicker, and that it will be too unavailable for most fights, and that the loss in power level outside of Ascended mode might be too much.ĭoes anyone have some ideas for best working out what I want to do, here? Is it simply sub-optimal? Would a pure Cipher with no Subclass be best? Lastly, what kind of attribute distribution would be good? I worry about the reduced damage and focus gain from Beguiler, but will the focus refunds from my CC abilities allow me to deal damage well, too? And with Ascendent. ![]() Now, given that I want to be a ranged attacked, Soul Blade is right out. I also want to stay as a pure class, for my first play through, because I really want to focus on the Cipher abilities. The beauty of the Cipher in the first game, for me, was the ability to excel at both crowd control and damage, depending on what the situation called for. I still want to be able to use a lot of my spells, and I don't want to necessarily focus on just crowd control. To fit with the whole swashbuckling theme, I love the idea of my Cipher using a blunderbuss or an arquebus from a range. I'm hoping to play a similar way in Pillars of Eternity 2. Or both, in the case of Silent Screams (loved that spell). ![]() In the first game I played the basic build of opening combat with a blunderbuss to build up focus and spam Cipher abilities- CC when necessary, or just pure damage.
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